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LRRP 37mmember	posted 04-25-2003 11:22 AM I thought we went into Iraq to stop ole numbnuts from producing these things,and now I see the US is going to produce nuclear bunker buster bombs. Is there something wrong with this picture or is it me? I think our Presidents head has got to big,makes me think what China,Russia and a few other countries are thinking right now. Myself it always made my skin crawl every time someone said WE'RE THE POWERFUL NATION ON EARTH,ya know in the real world when ya start throwing your weight around there is someone else who'll tune your clock for ya.I've seen things in my life that has given me a real distrust of our government,somethings I saw I still have a fear of retaliation and thats been over thirty years ago. IP: Logged
shorty 37mmember	posted 04-25-2003 11:31 AM Maybe we are planing on a nuclear shootout with north korea, they have made the threat of the use of nukes aganst the US if we attack them. Maybe war with north korea will happen in the next few years. If they launch those 2 nukes at us then we will rain death on them. Pitch an american flag it's the new Kmart parking lot. IP: Logged
shorty 37mmember	posted 04-25-2003 11:36 AM In my opinion the war with iraq was already justified by all the long range missiles, one of which flew all the way over iraq landed in the gulf over 190 miles WAY over the 94 mile range limit and because saddam is an A$$hole. And we did liberate the people of iraq that alone was worth it lets not forget that. IP: Logged
DWS 37mmember	posted 04-25-2003 11:39 AM Here's my .02, maybe we need to quit dicking around and strengthen this country instead of messing with others. Afterall, our borders are wide open and at least 25% of our population hates freedom in general. Instead of liberating them we should be liberating ourselves. IP: Logged
willyboy 37mmember	posted 04-25-2003 02:59 PM Aye,Captain! IP: Logged
Don 37mmember	posted 04-25-2003 07:54 PM DWS, U da man! IP: Logged
grog LineWalker	posted 04-25-2003 10:09 PM Amen Dave! Made me wonder when they showed all those Iraquis in the streets chanting "Death to America" and so on... At least when we liberated France, it took them quite a while to snub us!!! When I saw those clips on CNN, all I could think of was all those assholes having explosives strapped to themselves on planes to this country! I think we're in for a long haul on this war on terrorism... It's gonna take a lot of time to root all of them out. I hope it goes better than our war on drugs... GROG IP: Logged
willyboy 37mmember	posted 04-25-2003 11:24 PM We need to throw out th' UN and start flying the skull and crossbones!! IP: Logged
DWS 37mmember	posted 04-26-2003 12:58 AM Grog, No offense here brother, after running on the wrong side for 16+ years I quickly discovered the war on drugs is a sick joke. I'm really glad I settled down in 1995, now I see both sides of the story. My criticism has nothing to do with good LE, I know you guys do your best and I admire that, your efforts are limited by the higher powers. The real trouble is with liberal lawyers, judges, and most importantly, the chickensht jurors. The war on terrorism is also bullsht, it is really like the war on drugs, a war against the American people and their rights. Make us all criminals and they control our lives, heaven forbid if we get a little freedom, we might actually clean up the country. You sure as HELL wouldn't have to worry about arresting/prosecuting any damn criminals, tag 'em and bag 'em!! I predict we will see another terrorist attack here in the US. The anti-freedom whackos really need it(or should I say help create it)to take the rest of our rights away. We STILL have stupid people getting caught with unauthorized guns on planes, why not let all CCW holders carry on as well? That's logical, whackos would last about 5 seconds, doesn't factor in with anti-freedom politics. Ever noticed when an anti-Constitutional law needs to be passed we have Americans killed(in some kind of attack)right before it's voted on? Ironic isn't it? The timing scares the sh*t out of me, and I know damn well I'm not the only one around here who notices that stuff. Did you know every single school shooting has been linked to mood altering prescription drugs? That's right, schools/doctors pressured the parents into drugging their own kids. If you knew all the side effects of popular mood-altering drugs you wouldn't be shoving them down your kid's throat. [This message has been edited by DWS (edited 04-26-2003).] IP: Logged
omni 37mmember	posted 04-26-2003 02:45 AM No sh~t on the drugs? I havent heard that before. Got a website that has that info on it? It would be appreciated. IP: Logged
DWS 37mmember	posted 04-26-2003 03:41 AM http://subguns.biggerhammer.net/mgmsg.cgi?read=274263 Read it before it's deleted. IP: Logged
magnomark 37mmember	posted 04-26-2003 10:49 AM Those guys get in each others faces! ------------------ ...magnomark... "Just take the shot" IP: Logged
wildhare 37mmember	posted 04-26-2003 11:17 PM From what I understand, its true that all of the school shootings in the past few years have been linked with anti-depressants of some form, yet they still keep shoving these things down our kids throats. yet the mainstream media fails to make that connection. thats one hell of an oversight, they are the only ones who have failed to notice. something has to change, soon. IP: Logged
DWS 37mmember	posted 04-26-2003 11:56 PM I hate to say it but they're not going to do a damn thing as long as it fits their political agenda. They could give a sh*t less about a couple of kids killing people and then commiting suicide, it allows more insane gun control laws. Kinda strange how 98% of the shooters killed themselves, M K Ultra anyone? Maybe I'm just too observant on those things. IP: Logged
willyboy 37mmember	posted 04-27-2003 12:28 AM mk ultra? whuzzat? Did I miss something?! IP: Logged
DWS 37mmember	posted 04-27-2003 01:01 AM This is just FYI, M K Ultra-Former CIA/military project, subjects were submitted to advanced mind control. It is rumored they wanted perfect killers, you know, they lead basically normal lives then some kind of stimuli makes them carry out the carnage. Suicide is the last step, it covers all the tracks. IP: Logged
willyboy 37mmember	posted 04-27-2003 02:26 AM Oh,well in that context,the kids on perscriptions do kinda take on ominous tones...ridalin,anyone? IP: Logged
Don 37mmember	posted 04-27-2003 05:43 AM Haven't you guys been watching the news? Its not the kids fault and its not the drugs! The guns are to blame! We can continue with the drugs and such, but we've got to do something about the proliferation of guns! Congress should pass ANOTHER (unConstitutional)law... Don't they care about our young people? Who is going to protect us? Who is going to look out for us? Maybe if they can pass enough laws they can make us all criminals... I can't think of a safer place than the inside of a jail cell. No one comes in without being screened first and no one leaves without being released. All room and board provided; Safe and Cozy! IP: Logged
shootnstar 37mmember	posted 04-27-2003 11:32 AM Obviously the courts/justice system in this country has been politically corrupted. And the politicians aren't paying any attention to us "constituants" as we voice our opposition to their previous and proposed legislation against the Constitution. So, since these politicians/traitors seem to be so set in their ways, something has to be done once and for all to get their attention and clean out the UN-Constitutional law makers. Not much is going to happen by calling or writing to them. The courts aren't going to allow a civil lawsuit against the government to overturn gun control laws to even be heard. And the politicains themselves have knocked down every attempt to pass a law requiring that all laws be Constitutional. Here's what we can do: Start a petition calling for the impeachment of every current Senator and Congressman who has voted or supported anti-Constitutional gun laws. They took the Oath to uphold the Constitution and violating that Oath is a impeachable offense. Keep out the organized political groups(like NRA, ACLU)out of the petition process, they will only cause delays and trouble. Let's say after we get about a million or more signatures on the petitions "We the people" take those petitions to D.C. and present them in a proper manner. Keep it simple, Keep your personal views to yourself, and do not threaten or violate the process. The signatures of several million registered voters will do all the talking we need. If this is done in a proper moral mannner, there is no doubt that at the least changes will be made on Constitutional violations. We either make it or break it, meaning uphold the Constitution or they'll change it. Which would effectively end the political career of any savy lawnaker who propsed the change. My whole point here is we have to take it to their turf and get in their face, because obviously they are not listening. Another thing: These "organizations" that promote and lobby for gun control(VPC, Brady,etc)need to be outlawed. There has to be a exsisting law out there against anti-Constitutional activities. If not a law needs to be passed to make it illegal to perform anti-Constitutional activities. IP: Logged
magnomark 37mmember	posted 04-27-2003 11:42 AM Now that's straight shooting,Shootingstar! ------------------ ...magnomark... "Just take the shot" IP: Logged
DWS 37mmember	posted 04-27-2003 11:46 AM I'm in, keep us posted. Payback time! IP: Logged
shootnstar 37mmember	posted 04-27-2003 01:27 PM Anyone for helping get a petition worded? How about a list of Constitutional violaters? I believe there are watchdog groups out there that compile list of how our representatives vote. Anyone got info on them? Seems I saw a government website that had such info before. I think the NRA also keeps such a list, but I feel that it would be very important to keep this "by the people" and not subject to the political corruptness that seems to be associated with lobbyist or political agenda groups. The use of resources from the NRA would be perhaps helpful, but I for one do not trust their "handling" of any effort by the people to take back what is rightfully theirs. NO MORE COMPROMISES!! If we are truely a nation of laws, then we need to let the laws(10th Amendment) that protect us from injustice run their course. But nothing will happen unless "WE" make it happen. Don't let someone else do your part. Get involved for once! Any volunteers to help get this started? Once this is going, it will go with the flow. The people will make the copies of the petitions, get the sigantures, and mail the petitions to a central point. From there after a set time period(before AW sunset)a group of "the people" will take them to D.C. to put in the face of the Representatives that have betrayed this country. And then.......?? IP: Logged
willyboy 37mmember	posted 04-27-2003 03:57 PM And if that didn't do it EVERYBODY delay paying[legaly]TAXES one year.The whole rotten structure would crumble. IP: Logged
shootnstar 37mmember	posted 04-27-2003 04:15 PM Taxes??? Just remember who controls the mints where they print the money. The only way we can win at this is to hold them accountable. Politicians will never be moral until they are held accountable. We voted them in, we can vote them out. And we don't need an election to do it! IP: Logged
Don 37mmember	posted 04-27-2003 04:25 PM Shootnstar and willyboy are both right. The Founding fathers, sitting as the 1st Continental Congress said, "If money is wanted by Rulers who have in any manner oppressed the People, they may retain it until their grievances are redressed, and thus peaceably procure relief, without trusting to despised petitions or disturbing the public tranquility." (Journals of the Continental Congress 1774-1789 Journals 1:105-13). IP: Logged
grog LineWalker	posted 04-27-2003 05:46 PM No offense taken Dave. When you're right... You're right... The reason I mentioned the war on drugs was because it is a gross failure, and an impossibility given the restrictions placed on the true fighters of the war. GROG IP: Logged
SkyKing 37mmember	posted 04-27-2003 06:25 PM [QUOTE]Originally posted by shootnstar: I believe there are watchdog groups out there that compile list of how our representatives vote. Anyone got info on them? http://www.vote-smart.org/index.htm This site catagorizes the voting records of Congress still in their seats. They have it broken down into catagories and year and how they voted. Great idea brother, it does have to remain "by the people" and most groups, although like minded, will only hinder the process. Senator Schumer used that very tactic debating against Rep. MacCollum in 1996 over repealing the AW ban. Schumeer accused him of doing the bidding of the NRA, a political lobbist group. The one that chafes my a$$ the most is Rep. John Conyers from Michigan he said "Sooner or later the Republicans are going to have to put the American people ahead of the gun lobyists." They all still think it's about the NRA and political lobbying because that is all they understand! Keep us posted of this project. I personally think it has merit and is a legal means by which to render a result without coming off and like a bunch of revoloutionaries. Once known, I believe the signatures will come. IP: Logged
DWS 37mmember	posted 04-27-2003 07:44 PM I'm all for the signatures to show to Congress. I can get hundreds of signatures where I work, thousands at local gunshows. I also need help on a project, lets say I just might have access to a VCR tape from 1986, live coverage of our Congresscritters slipping the MG ban in at the last minute. Even NRA reps saying to vote FOR the ban, remember NRA said MGs have no sporting purpose too? Sure did, 3 years later they helped kill imported AWs followed by the 1994 AW ban. This tape is in poor shape, it needs to be digitally restored by a pro and copied to CD, does anyone know who has the equipment and would love to help out? If this CD was viewed by even a small percentage of gunowners you'd see millions of very pissed off individuals in a short period of time. This MG ban was the beginning of the war against ALL magazine-fed firearms.To say it would help our cause would be a gross understatement indeed. IP: Logged
SkyKing 37mmember	posted 04-27-2003 08:24 PM Not a bad idea but, don't ever loose track or possesion of the original! No matter how bad the quality. Digital restoration IS digital manipulation. Without access to the original for confirmation in an "official" capacity it will be written off as "manufactured propaganda". Just my .02...again. All this .02 tonight, I must have about .88 cents invested in this site! IP: Logged

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